All the defenders of Walt - who hate Skyler because she hurt his feelings - it honestly creeps me out. Can people not see how abusive Walt is? She strikes back once for every ten things he does to hurt, abuse, lie to her, put them all in danger - and suddenly she's so "awful". I'm actually disturbed by all the defense of hatred toward Skyler for simply trying to make the best of an awful situation Anna Gunn did to a great job conveying the sheer emotional overwhelm Skyler was going through.
It's like Skyler didn't know what to prioritize or how. Even the writers defend Skyler so how all these fans can continue to hate her is confusing. Granted - I don't like her myself, but I do understand her to a degree and I don't hate her. By the last season I'm hoping Walt goes down. I hated Skyler from the first episode when she half assed gave him a b-day handy and didn't even bother to pay attention.
If I was Walt, I would have just walked away. It just seemed like their entire marriage was about her and what she wanted. Remember folks, he gave up his entire future for her who was just a waitress and their newborn kid.
The man could have been a rock-star in the chemistry world with a Nobel Prize and millions to his name. Instead his life became one long slog through mediocrity In thanks he gets a nagging wife who doesn't pay attention to him. For me, that was underscored when Walt reveals to her that he has cancer.
She immediately makes the whole situation about her, her feelings and what she wants. It took an "intervention" blowing up in her face, where Walt finally gets to have a say for her to realize that gee, her husband has thoughts and feelings of his own too. My other big gripe is that she seems completely content to not work, just sit back and sponge off of Walt's paycheck before the baby.
They have a special needs son, but he's more than capable of taking care of most things for himself now, which means that Skyler is content to just sit on her ass. There is absolutely no reason for her not to work. In many ways, it's her constant nagging that pushes him to a life of crime. Her almost constant nagging him about how he has a family to think about while forcing him into the most expensive oncologist ever which will leave his family destitute leaves him little choice but desperate solutions.
This us spot on as to the hatred for Skylar. I understand marriage and martial sex life can hit rough patches and droughts, but this woman was so self-absorbed into her own selfishness that she couldn't even set aside an eBay auction for a moment of intimacy with her husband on his birthday It was like she wasn't truly on her husbands side from the start. I also like the point another poster made about Walt and Ted I want to feel bad that Skylar gets the short end of the stick in her refuge sex with Ted, but I can't for all the reasons that everyone has already posted Skylar is just terrible Aww she thinks that we hate her because Walt mistreated her.
She is the reason there was a DEA agent in Walts house. I don't think this was an accident either. Jessie, Saul, Mike, Walt are all far more likable characters. If you're not a tight ass you'll understand this was meant to make the show believable. I can't really comment on who is the most "justified" in Breaking Bad; everyone in Breaking Bad is pretty morally questionable.
I can, however, tell you why I hate Skylar White. Skylar is a petty person with no self control and no ability to think past her own immediate needs. I think one of the quintessential moments for the the Skylar haters out there is one of the first scenes where Walt falsely confesses to using pot and her response is to shut him out for days and to impotently threaten Pinkman.
Marrying someone does not give you substantial control over someone's body or the substances they put into it or where they go. Another sore point, I think, is Skylar's freeze out of her sister over her shoplifting. What if Walt responded to his brother in law's repeated rude behavior by shutting him out until he apologized for "embarrassing" him?
We would grow tired of Walt very quickly in the same way that I'm just sort of tired of Skylar's pettiness. Now an argument can definitely be made that Skylar is dealing with real issues under the surface and reacts this way because she is under pressure. Sure, I agree; but she reacts in really annoying and crappy ways.
People are allowed to dislike a fictional character that is annoying and crappy without being sexist; and honestly I think Skylar's character falls apart hardest on the feminist side of things. Walt finds himself in a wide variety of tight spots, all of which he deftly escapes with his seemingly magical powers of reason. Skylar's coping mechanisms consist of the silent treatment and loudly demanding apologies.
I'm not all the way through the the show yet, but, so far, she hasn't tried to honestly communicate with Walt or investigate his behavior at all. Why doesn't she follow Pinkman one day? He's not really that hard to find. Why not play it tactful one day to try to get Walt to open up?
As far as I can tell, Skylar is basically a child in a woman's body. She has a lot more in common with Pinkman than she does with Walt in that she lacks any kind of foresight or strategy. This would place her more solidly in the "villain" role, but I think people would hate her substantially less.
Let's just imagine a different take on BB where Walt is the abusive villain husband and Skylar is the heroine overcoming adversity: she is the crappiest, most impotent heroine ever. As far as we can tell from the show, Skylar basically sits at home all day or drives around smoking her baby to death while her crazy husband makes meth.
While that may be somewhat true to the reality of drug manufacturing, it reads more like a depressing PSA than an actual story with plot. I agree that part of the problem is definitely that the show doesn't put a lot of energy into developing Skyler as a character or showing us her motivations -- from a structural perspective she's there to be a complication in Walt's life and she isn't given the layered treatment that Walter and Jesse and a lot of the other male characters are.
In the first season, I did find her annoying because she was always trying to tell Walt how to feel and act, and I thought that was a bad way for someone male or female to treat a spouse.
As the series went on though, I started to feel like the show as really PUSHING me to find her annoying, and I took a step back, probably in season two, to ask myself why I disliked her so much partly because I came to the show late and I was forewarned that everyone hated this character for some reason and that there was some kind of debate about that. At that point, I realised that what we were seeing was a situation where Walt was lying to her face every day, and she could tell that he was lying to her face, and was trying to find out the truth I decided that it wasn't really that annoying anymore, from my perspective, since married couples SHOULD tell each other the truth about important things, and she really did have a right to know what he was doing and a right to decide whether or not she wanted to stay with him, knowing the truth.
Later, when she knows that he's a drug dealer or whatever he is , she becomes "annoying" because she wants to be involved in making the decisions about what they're going to do. It's annoying to Walt, because it interferes with the fantasy he has of himself as Mr. Hyde, the big masculine drug lord, and because he can't stand the way that she sees him as being somebody other than that this is where he yells "I am the one who knocks!!!
Again, she's an obstacle from the script's perspective, because she's blocking Walter from his goals, but, from my perspective, I'm forced to say she's being pretty reasonable in her expectation that they should communicate with each other and make mutual decisions about things that effect both of them. What's interesting about their relationship is that the way Walter whom I always thought was a total jerk to everyone, Jesse just as much as Skyler treats her, and the way he demands that she behave, is reflective of this toxic version of masculinity that he takes on once he goes full Heisenberg.
He seems to feel that he's entitled to just do whatever he wants and Skyler should shut up and be grateful for it. That he's entitled to have a family even if his family doesn't want to be around him anymore.
He wants being a drug kingpin to be his own private little world, and he wants Skyler to stay out of his way -- he starts to see her as a THING that's in his way. Because of that, the show has to want the same thing as Walter, to a certain degree -- sort of like how the Dexter the show has to want Dexter the character to murder people and get away with it. Breaking Bad again, kind of like Dexter also muddies the waters by drifting back and forth between framing Walt as an interesting character in an intense situation whom we may or may not like, and framing him as this super awesome dude to be admired.
I really enjoy the show,when it's Walt as an interesting character in an intense situation who's basically unlikable, but also understandable in his petty, self-serving motivations -- I feel more conflicted about it when we're supposed to uncritically accept the idea that Walt is fantastic and anyone who harshes his buzz is the worst. PS: a plea for civility: i would like to also say that it is unhelpful when commenters add things like " Those who want to be like Walter need to learn from his mistakes and Michael Corleone's success.
Walt tried to talk to his wife and then had to lie to her about his business to keep her from being suspicious. In contrast, Michael Corleone never discussed business at all with the women of the family. Neither did Michael except when his sister later joined the inner circle.
The fact that Skylar would be suspicious shows she was not the type of woman to be married to a crime boss. In contrast, Michael Corleone's approach was to not allow his wife to know anything about his business. And, she knew and understood that arrangement. Only once did she ever question him openly, and the one question that she asked, he lied as an answer. Corleone's mother did not want to know about the business and actively made sure that she didn't know gather up kids to allow the men to talk.
Now, granted, these are very male-centric crime endeavors and families. However, if you want to be like Walt and want to also talk to your wife, change your name to Clyde and make sure she is named Bonnie Ie someone who is into it crime as much as you. I didnt like her much either. Its nothing to do with strong female characters is all to do with her morale compass. With regards Walter, you can argue that what hes doing isnt right, but his reasons for doing it are all based on a love for his family, afterall, it was Skylar that made him do the cancer treatment to begin with, Walter didnt want to do it and wanted to die.
It was Skylar that pushed him to ask for money from his former girlfriend and mate, again, walter didnt want to do this. And pretty much from the off Skylar did nothing but push him into treatments and talks with doctors that you could tell walter didnt want. And then, in typical woman fashion, shes not happy. After pushing Walt to do all these things, which results in huge pressure on Walt to find the money and eventually start cooking the meth, she finds out all these things and then blames HIM for it all!!
Its not 'strong woman' its just a bloody typical woman. They change their minds too much and it gets on mens nerves. In fact Skylar did it so much during the show i was really hoping walt would turn into this full on drug lord and pop her off, she was that annoying. Theres nothing to love about Skylar, shes cold, she comes across like she cares but ultimately shes only ever thinking of herself, even when she had the affair, there was absolutely no need for it.
If anything, Walt should have put a bullet through her head and be done with it at this point and just had loads of money and loads of women. I was annoyed that Walt never killed her, i would have loved that, she was so two faced throughout the whole series. I couldn't agree more and I'm a woman. I've only started watching the series over the past week and am up to s03e05 - and I must say, I've grown to really dislike her unreasonable and 'I want it my way so shut up' nature, especially in season 3 that I'm watching now, but to be honest, Skyler's character irritated me right from the start.
I noticed people talking about strong female characters, and I am all for strong female characters, but being pushy, demanding, spiteful, unreasonable, manipulative and unfaithful are not traits of a 'strong woman'.
Walt's former colleague offered him the money. He did not have to ask for it. Actually, he was offered a high-paying job as a sort of "cover" to allow Walt to keep some of his pride. But no, Walt was to proud to accept it. He had a son and a pregnant wife but he just could not swallow his pride and accept it.
So then he decided to go into the drug business. Considering him to be an inteligent man, he must have known a life of crime would eventually put his wife and children in danger as it eventually did.
So much for thinking about his family. And of course she was not happy. She was his wife. She knew him, she knew he was lying to her face repeatedly. She also knew he would have prefered to just die and leave her with the kids, not even thinking about the possibility of treatment. How could she be happy? And I'm not even going into "typical woman behaviour". It is absolutely insulting. I myself hated Walter White with a passion he was manipulative and he played on peoples emotions especially Jessies I loved Skyler for the fact she seen thru his bullcrap..
I did not like Lydiashe was too shifty.. Walts family got drug thru hell to in the end lose everything. As you know there is difference between "boring but you can still watch" and "not at all interesting" Full disclosure - I've only seen the 4.
But, is it possible that Skylar herself was the cause of Walter White's lung cancer? She was, after all, a smoker before Holly came along.
Secondhand smoke is linked to lung cancer. For that matter, smoking during pregnancy is also linked to low birthweight, which increases the risk of conditions such as CP. I will stop short, however, of blaming her for Walt's selling his shares in Grey Matter prematurely Maybe its just me but I find my main problem with Skylar is the unique way that she threatens the plot. She is the only person who is trying to maintain Walter White, where as the rest of the pushes towards the creation of Heisenberg.
This is especially prevalent in the first season where Skylar shows she has very little respect for Walt's wishes about his treatment process or lack there of. This is especially important in Breaking Bad for one of the main themes it represents. Breaking Bad is a story of how Walt is a very emasculated man who feels like he has no control over his life. Through entering the drug trade Walt twists and feels more masculine, more in control, as he feels empowered by being the best in his field.
But then in comes Skylar who makes Walt, and the narrative, feel like its running backwards as he has someone pushing him back, wanting him to give up the control he's so desperately longed for. Is it that fact that she's a woman that makes her so hated? Personally I don't think so, I would argue that its because of how she threatens the narrative. We can't hate how Walter threatens the narrative, because his transformation is the narrative. We don't hate how Hank threatens the narrative because he's part of the thrill of the genre, the connection with the law that demands duplicity, intelligence, cunning.
Because of this relationship Hank actually adds to Walt's transformation because it makes Walt feel powerful to be able to pull the wool of the eyes of a star DEA agent. This is the weakness of Skylar's character, not that she's just another antagonist in the story and we hate her because she's female. I think she's disliked because she is the only plot element that makes Walt feel as though he needs to give up Heisenberg, rather than embrace his transformation even further.
Using "this" as a reply is lazy and stupid. Just type "I agree," or better yet, don't reply at all. I keep reading that Walt struggled with Skyler with a knife. What is a man supposed to do if a woman attacks him with a knife? Let her slice his stomach and spill his guts out? The actress, who netted two Supporting Actress Emmys for her work on Breaking Bad, added in her discussion with EW that the backlash was also part of "the brilliance of the construct of the show. Intriguing insights aside, it's become clear in the years since Breaking Bad left the airwaves that all the Skyler hate took a serious toll on Gunn's confidence.
Per the same EW interview, the actress admitted that it was "very tough" on her. Gunn further shared, "It shook me. As an actor, my job is not to always play characters who make everybody happy. That's not interesting. In fact, characters that are more difficult in a way are more interesting. But when you are on a show that has become that big and people are identifying you so much with somebody that they dislike, you can't help but feel like you get folded into it. It apparently shook Gunn so much that she questioned her own ability, with the actor telling EW , "There were a lot of questions.
But of course, that was four seasons ago. The Skyler White we now see is an entirely different woman. As evidenced by all that beige and white that she and her husband have been wearing this season, they're now both on the same team. In fact, on the Breaking Bad morality spectrum, Skyler has recently tipped closer than Walt to "Really, Really Bad," particularly in last week's episode when she implied that Walt should bump off Jesse by uttering that chilling question: "For us, what's one more?
She's watching out for it. This is actually the moment when some legitimate dislike of Skyler White would make sense. As Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan said in an interview with New York magazine earlier this year: "I like Skyler a little less now that she's succumbed to Walt's machinations, but in the early days she was the voice of morality on the show.
She was the one telling him, 'You can't cook crystal meth. Yet some fans of the show continue to detest Skyler, but not because she's engaging in immoral behavior. What bothers them is a certain hypocrisy they detect in her, stemming from the fact that she objects to Walt's meth business — an objection that finally convinced him to quit cooking — yet continues to potentially benefit from all that dirty money. A couple of weeks before Gunn's op-ed piece was published, I got into an argument with a male friend of mine about this very issue.
We started talking about Breaking Bad , and he mentioned how much he loathes Skyler, adding that the reason she bugs him is the same reason that Hillary Clinton bugs him.
At this point, a small but discernible amount of smoke started coming out of my ear holes. But I took a deep breath.
And then I very calmly said, " What the hell is that supposed to mean? Instead, he contended, they used those dysfunctional marriages to their benefit.
Now I'm not even going to address the Clintonian side of this argument because, frankly, it's my mission to get through most days without thinking about the Starr Report. The show's creator Vince Gilligan is currently working on a Breaking Bad spin-off film , but it's unclear if any members of the White family will make an appearance. Actress Anna Gunn played the White family matriarch in all five seasons of the series. Being the wife of Walter White was certainly not easy.
Skyler stood by Walt after his cancer diagnosis and remained as a pillar for the rest of the family to lean on. Walt's constant disappearances and erratic behavior put a strain on his marriage with Skyler. Unbeknownst to her, Walt was distracted by his secret career as an emerging drug kingpin.
Skyler was understandably frightened and furious when she learned the truth, but she went on to mastermind a money laundering scheme for Walt's ill-gotten gains. The family dynamic changed when Walt got in too deep with his dangerous dealings. With Walt spinning out of control and Hank dead, Skyler solely focused on protecting her kids, Walt Jr.
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